Small periods of time? No impact on modern society? Sure is that why modern day Turkey is religiously muslim instead of Eastern Orthodox Christian? What about Southern Russia and Eastern European countries like Albania? Yeah, no long lasting impacts. Don't trivialize the suffering of white armenian people in Turkey and our genocide at their hands. That anon is racist and biased.
hey thanks for letting us hash this out on your blog, and thanks for arguing my point with that person who said I was offensive for saying "colour shouldn't matter" I hope you've had a good day.
Oh thank you so much :). Thank you for sparking a good debate!
saying there should be a white history month is like saying there should be a straight pride parade, or men's week. every month is white history month. every day is white day. the world we live in caters to white people. giving three examples of small periods of time where poc managed to take over white people doesn't change that in the slightest. those takeovers clearly had no impact on modern day society. the way white people treated natives, black people, asian, and all others, does.
I don’t know if I can fully agree to this statement
"no white people have ever been slaves, or been under the rule of another country that forced them to change their culture. that is why there is no white day in other countries." Wrong. See: Ottoman Empire takeover (Turkey) vs East Roman Empire. Mongols vs Europe, 1300s. Omayyad Caliphate vs Spain (lead to Caliphate of Cordoba). And plenty more where that came from. Checkmate. Knowledge of history is critical to dash such ignorance.
I never said there wasn't any good in 'white' history. I was making a point in regards to the existence of 'white' history months in countries such as China so consider my comment in that context. Nonetheless, the achievements of great individuals should not be categorised by race bur instead should be held to their own merit.
I think Mr Henry is being a little insensitive here. History of people of white skin color is filled with both good and bad, just like all other races. Look at all the good that they brought with invention and art - from the enlightenment thinkers to Beethoven, Da Vinci, Edison, James Watson, Tim Berners Lee, etc. I'm sure if someone mentioned only the black or hispanic mob bosses and focused on that they would be racist to overlook the good apples. I think Mr Henry is selectively biased.
Interesting point. I don’t know if Henry will reply to this but hopefully he sees this and does!
White people have been slaves. The Greeks and Romans enslaved plenty people of European ancestry throughout history. The Germanic Huns enslaved and pillaged the Romans. Sudanese Africans were being enslaved and raped by Arab North Sudanese. Indians and asians are systematically enslaved and mistreated by rich Arabs in Dubai - UAE. And yes, there are many cases of whites being mistreated when they are minorities. Or even look at Ukraine - Russians vs Ukrainian ethnic strife. It happens friends.
I’ll leave this for the other anons to argue
You’re all distracting me from my business report! But this debate is great, keep the opinions coming! Although I think the last anon nailed it.
P.S. Sorry to my other followers for the spam.
there is actually a tumblr blog called, "thisiswhiteprivilege" if you're interested.
I’m also going to use this empty space to add Henry’s opinion that he commented on one of my asks but I want others to see as well:
"Look at what ‘white’ history is filled with - oppression, exploitation, murder, slavery and the like. Do you really think that is something to be celebrated?"
And thank you anon, I am interested in seeing this blog. I’ll do that after I finish this damn business report on the Toronto Stock Exchange!
about the whole "white day" in china/india/whatever. the thing this anon needs to realize is that racism is system. as in, it develops over a ridiculously long period of time. every single continent has suffered at some point due to the ethnocentrism of white people (europeans and first and eventually americans). no white people have ever been slaves, or been under the rule of another country that forced them to change their culture. that is why there is no white day in other countries.
White Privilege is actually a real thing. White people do have privilege in other countries. It might be more prevalent in other countries. An example of white privilege is someone going over to China and being able to speak Mandarin. Most often, the people will be impressed and show their appreciation. But as soon as a Chinese person speaks their dialect, they are often made fun of and "ching, chong" comes up. People don't notice white privilege because they are used to it.
I think the people in the video are closed minded. I'm pretty sure the white people don't have "white privilege" in countries like India, China, and other parts of the world where they are minorities. The western world is the only place that celebrates minority culture and tries to combat racism. Why don't they fight for a white history day in say China or Bangladesh or the Middle East? Or a woman's day in India (the country infamous for recent news of rape) and Saudi Arabia? They pick on whites
Wasn’t the British government heavily involved in taking over India throughout the 1800s? A quick Google search tells me that Queen Victoria was named Empress of India in 1876. Why would they fight for white history day when there is no white history in China (educated guess, correct me if I’m wrong). I don’t think there is white history (or enough to make it a national day) involved in Bangladesh or the Middle East for that matter.
I’d really like to call out my followers if anyone has an (open minded) opinion of this argument. This is a good debate.
To the anon that said, "colour shouldn't matter", that is in fact pretty offensive. It's not noticeable at first, but when you tell people the race they are doesn't matter, you're actually denying the experiences that their race has endured, that their experiences as a minority aren't important. Just letting you know for future references. :)
The person I reblogged the video from, Crystal, argues about this topic a lot. I’m trying to remember what she has said about it but it was basically about Africans never forgetting the past and that white people should never forget either. But I don’t think that anon was trying to argue ‘colour shouldn’t matter’, they were trying to argue the fact that people who want equality shouldn’t be discriminating others either. Like they said, reverse racism is still racism.
I always support debate, no matter your opinion. So if anyone wants to weigh in their perspective so long as it’s open minded and not attacking me, please feel free!
that video is kind of shitty though, you know? like i get that things still arent fair yet, but the way to change that should not be reverse racism. I don't say that to be an ass, im not even white, but that shouldn't be the point. If the whole point is that your colour shouldn't matter then those kids in that video shouldn't be trying to shame people for theirs. I know you know what I mean, because I know that youre fucking smart,
(Cont’d)… And again, I know there are things that aren’t right, I know that, but that ‘poetry reading’ cant be the way to go about it. And I need to use a very recent example, with the Oscars, where Lupita Nyong’o won an Oscar and some people were shitty about it. And in return for people’s racism and shittiness, others decided the way to solve it was to regard Jennifer Lawrence badly, because somehow saying shitty things about the white person makes you less racist? I just happen to find this kind of shit incredibly stupid, and way too much anger in that video completely misdirected, and in those people regarding the Oscar ceremony who see everything as an occasion to discuss race. reverse racism is still racism.
I didn’t know that Oscar example was happening, and it’s stupid that that’s happening. You make a good point with that example though. I just find that with the spoken word video I reblogged, they were more focused on the inequality that minorities face. Watching it again, yes I do see some parts where they were discriminating white people but I find that for the rest of it they were focused on minorities. I’m sorry if what I’m saying doesn’t entirely answer you, but with the video aside you do have a very true point. Reverse racism is still racism, but with this video (other than some of the remarks they made about white males) I still agree with what they’re saying and I still think it’s true. You’re seeing it as how bashing the dominant race doesn’t result in equality, which is entirely true yes. But with this video and what I took from it, is that if we want equality, we have to see the inequality first.